Originally Posted by mafoofan
I understand as much as anyone else how irritating intellectual masturbation can be. But it's even more irritating when someone merely attaches the label to whatever they don't understand or aren't willing to spend time understanding.
I don't know if the poster you're responding to could understand this discussion or not, but I can understand it and I still think it's intellectual mastubration. Here's why--I don't think you have any chance of convincing the post-modernism fanboy who got you going in the first place. . Continental post-modernist fans are basically the same as high school/college objectivists--they think highly of their own intelligence, enjoy being part of a sub-culture and being contrarians, and thus cling to their faith like small towns cling to guns--and if they give in to counter argument then they lose the community as well as their pride. And I think you know that good and well. The tone of his argument suggests he has chosen his side, and is just sticking to it now, rather than engaging with an open mind.
But I think you're engaging in this argument none-the-less because you ENJOY the discourse for its own sake, which is what makes it masturbatory rather than legitimate discussion. I don't think you're doing it to educate 3rd parties who might actually be weighing the tenets of post-modernism vs traditional western modes of thought--no one on this threak has indicated they're on the fence and want to see how this plays out.
And that was some of my own intellectual masturbation.