Business meeting pick-ups - Page 2

I don't think you've set the bar too high; when you finally find it, it is that much more meaningful because you haven't wasted that sentiment on too many others. The "confusion" word being thrown around doesn't fit in; you know you aren't confused. You seem, actually, to be one of the more personally honest posters here. I'd say that the important thing is not to try to overanalyze it; this is what I do/did and it just makes everything a big mess. Trust your feelings/yourself and take a few chances doing something that you might normally do/expect. One's feelings (emotional, physical, etc.) are simultaneously very complicated and bewilderingly simple. I don't think we really need, ideally, to sit and figure them all out. I agree. Work flirting makes the drudgery go by faster. Unfortunately, I work with ReALLY unattractive people and so there is very little flirting.

Funny, I read through the entire thing thinking it was whnay until I was reading the comments. My thought process went from "Oh that explains things" to "Wat"

^I assumed mafoofran jr. was joking, only because I can't imagine it being done seriously. With the 15,000 "dating" questions and confessionals and tittaaaay and look-where-I-stuck-my-dick and dude-grabbed-my-girl's-ass sort of misogynistic ramblings around here, a few threads with HONEST homoerotic subtexts (instead of the blatantly dishonest, yet still very apparent ones elsewhere) should pose no problems. Anyway, why, the "weightier matters" thing is key. I think our work and our projects always need to take center stage above other things. It's nice to have someone, but at the end of the day, you are an individual. If you find the right relationship, they all go together and enrich each other (personal, professional, creative, etc.). Sadly, they are often parasitic and take away from our work, but this doesn't have to be the case. The key is recognizing which is which and going for it when it "clicks."

You are my Harvey Milk.

No Rach, he is obviously confused. He said he hasn't felt this way before about a man, like he wanted to actually be intimate with them. It's obvious.

All this talk of homosexual encounters it making me ill. You freaks should be in re-education camps!

Aren't you going to be late for your latest round of testosterone treatments? I'd hate to see you inadvertently put into the next batch of "Are these fake? NSFW."

If you've simply neglected to include a smilie here, then nm.
But if this is in earnest, why don't you shut the fuck up.

there's so much wiggle room as it pertains to sexuality, assuming someone's gay (especially someone with whom you are involved with in any marginally professional way) sounds dangerous.

Exactly. Your situation is not entirely different from mine. It's not that our standards are too high or that you are "confused," it's instead that we are dissatisfied with the "community" out there and what it seems to value, what it suggests, and what it seems to 'require" as admittance. Personally, I like men, but I don't want to sit at a club with guys who are like, "And OMG Dolce Gabbana is SO ugly this season. And WHY is Madonna hanging out with them. UGH!" At the same time, I don't particularly want to go "hunting" and hook up with some random guy I don't know and who probably isn't worth my time. The problem is one overall of finding a "place" within a social discourse that has very little to do with our attractions. It was/is a reactionary discourse that, for me, often leaves me feeling completely out-of-place and unsure where else to go. Do I keep being "picky" and, as such, sitting alone and watching "Howard's End" with a tub of ice cream? OR, do I "adopt" the affectations and become a part of that community. No way. In short, really how do men "go about" actually having a relationship with each other that isn't affected, isn't reactionary, or isn't a parallel/mirror image of straight relationships, only that it is between men? Have you ever read the short interview with Foucault called "Friendship as a Way of Life?" It sets out very briefly the idea of same-sex relationships that are formed in and of themselves, without being just reactions or stereotypes. Short answer is that your standards aren't too high; it's that your standards (and mine and lots of other guys) just don't have a "place" in the conceptual make up of society that hasn't really had time to include them in its rules of formation.

I like Why more and more.

^because you're also sexually questionable?