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post #826 of 950
Crane, when you say a work boot should not feel like a shoe when properly sized what do you mean? is it supposed to fit looser or something?
post #827 of 950
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Crane, when you say a work boot should not feel like a shoe when properly sized what do you mean?

is it supposed to fit looser or something?

Yes, you should have some wiggle room in the toe box area. In the arch area the fit should be neither tight or loose and in the heel area it should also not be tight or loose with a slight amount of heel slip when you walk. Keep in mind this should be the case when wearing a boot sock, something like a Smartwool light/medium hiker. This fit is what you want after several hours on your feet or after a light hike. The reason being is your feet will swell up. In the morning before you head out the boot will fit a bit looser which is normal. Also keep in mind when it's cold out you tend to need more room for arctic boot socks. These are thick and when you put the boot on that wiggle room in the toe box will be gone and the arch/heel area will feel a bit snug but not uncomfortable. Remember insulation works when it's not compressed. I got a simple test for everyone who thinks you size down with these. Get an arctic weight boot sock, put 'em on and then try to put your boot on. Let me know how well it works. I wear the heavyweight Filson Merino wool socks and I can tell you that if I had to wear these all the time I would size up a half size.

Getting the proper fit on a work boot or a hiking boot is a lot more complicated than one would guess. I have 8 different manufacturers worth of boots around the house and all of them are my measured size or a half size larger.

Before many of you were born I tried doing the size down thing and paid for it dearly in sore blistered feet and aching ankles after half a day being on my feet trying to work. I learned the hard way but you don't have to.
post #828 of 950
thats some knowledge right there,thanks for all the great info!
post #829 of 950
I have to trust Crane's but I still don't fully understand the sizing advice. I fully cognitively and logically understand what you are saying - but it just doesn't add up in my personal experience. I'm a 9D in pretty much every dress shoe I've ever tried on. I'm also a 9 in Sperry, Rachel Comey. When measured, I come up a 9D (according to you they may have measured me wrong, obviously I can't vouch for the person who measured me so I can't be totally sure) But, I've been measured several times and come up the same. I wear an 8.5E in Yuketen Angler Moc's, which seem to run 1/2 large to most people. I'm wearing an 8D in Wolverine 1K Mile Boots, week in week out, almost every day, all day. And I'm not having problems. They seem to fit perfectly. I guess I could instead be wearing an 8.5 with thicker socks, but I've tried on a 9 and they were huge. Again, I'll leave the advice up to the expert. In my humble experience it seems to be a full size down, of course I could be an anomaly, I don't know. If I had a friend ask me I'd probably still recommend going down .5 to a full size, or at least trying that and seeing how it feels, but I'd tell them what you said as well. Maybe I'm just not subjecting them to enough wear throughout the day, so I don't feel the foot swell that you said is an issue. Interesting knowledge from Crane's though, I'll definitely consider it in my next purchase.

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post #830 of 950
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post #831 of 950
I also agree with most of Cranes advise except that if I go a half size larger I'll be swimming in these boots. Doesn't most leather stretch just like most denim so you may want a bit of a snug fit from the start? And Cranes you are in Missouri? How often do you, or any of us need heavyweight Filson Merino wool socks? Although you may do some serious hiking most of us hike across the parking lot from our cars to our offices. I truly appreciate you sharing your knowledge with us, I'm just trying to understand.
post #832 of 950
It's also interesting to note that of the 3 local stores in Los Angeles I called when locating my size, two said right off the bat that they run big and to size down. So it's nit just the forum...

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post #833 of 950
i went a half size down on my Wolverine's and they fit perfect w/ thicker socks...w/ regular socks they're a little loose
post #834 of 950
I understand what people are saying. Obviously I keep track of what people have said here and elsewhere about the fit of these boots. I have heard TTS, + .5 up all the way to -1.0. Who's right?

When it come down to it no one is. There are too many variables.

What socks you wear most often is probably the biggest factor. Work/hiking boot manufacturers understand this and try to hit sizing based on a midweight sock. I have talked about something called toe jamming. They also take this into account because this problem is very real on a construction site or hiking on uneven terrain. Hence what appears to be lots of toe room is built into the design on purpose to keep this to a minimum. Same with the wiggle room to allow for swelling. If you treat them like shoes I suppose the game is different and that's alright. However if your game changes and you use these for their intended purpose you will be a very unhappy camper. My advice is based on using these for their intended purpose in the environments they were designed for. The same goes for my care and maintenance advice.

Someone asked how many times it would be necessary to wear heavyweight wool socks in Missouri. Well I wore them last week for two days in temperatures ranging from 28 to 47F. I was in the field all day in deer hunting stands. That means being stationary for hours on end in what appears to be relatively mild temperatures. Without the heavy wool socks life would have been miserable. These boots are uninsulated so that means you dress your feet for the environment. There's that pesky variable again that can easily cover an entire size range.

Again proper sizing in a work/hiking boot is not a simple thing and generalizations just won't cut it.
post #835 of 950
i had a weird sizing thing with these im normally a 11.5 in most shoes, when i wore 10.5 in these they def hurt feet a bit, so i went with 11s and they were alittle loose but i have no pain while wearing them for the most part. so i added insoles to them and now they are a decent fit, not ideal they are still a bit loose but good enough i suppose. just my 2 cents
post #836 of 950
I'm interested in the 1000 Mile boots but I can't figure out if I want Rust or Brown. There are no in store retailers near me and the pictures I see online are inconsistent, as if the white balance is off. Does anyone have pictures that show their true color?
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i had a weird sizing thing with these

im normally a 11.5 in most shoes, when i wore 10.5 in these they def hurt feet a bit, so i went with 11s and they were alittle loose but i have no pain while wearing them for the most part. so i added insoles to them and now they are a decent fit, not ideal they are still a bit loose but good enough i suppose.

just my 2 cents

Which insoles did you get ?
post #838 of 950
did anyone buy the addison model? haven't seen many actual pics of it thats why i asked.
post #839 of 950
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did anyone buy the addison model? haven't seen many actual pics of it thats why i asked.

Environments they were designed for?
What the hell century are you living in? You say it like you don't wear them as some niche market fashion statement; to which I call bullshit.

Heritage pf flyers were designed for running too but i'm pretty sure any podiatrist or physiotherapist would discourage you from playing sports in them. Camping or hiking in single leather soled wolverine 1000 miles or 721's is exactly the same as running in heritage pf flyers just because they were designed for sports.

And, being sold for $725 at boutiques like leffot, I certainly don't think they were designed for the average blue collar working man. Yeah yeah, Edmund Hillary still climbed everest in a pair of leather clunkers and your 721's will still do the job, but i'm pretty sure if Hillary had the chance between a pair of ll bean waterproof goretex lined good year welted hiking boots for an 1/8th of the price of some wolverine 721's which have fuck all ankle support and traction compared to the former, the reason anyone would choose 721's would be because they like the aesthetics and it's a fashion statement.

Your context sucks. Either your in it for the fashion and overcompensating your grizzledness...or your just dumb.

My point: Quit banging on about how you don't treat them like dress shoes and post more pictures of your vintage designed petite boots and embrace it. BAH! (I didn't actually mean that to be quite so burning but it's late, leave me alone...also...i may have taken on that handy advice about sno-sealing...but to the rest of it! bah!)
post #840 of 950
eh. last post supposed to quote cranes. my bad.
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