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Fake Selvedge denim

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there was a thread that someone mentioned selvedge denim being faked in some jeans to "appear" selvedge. interested to hear any relevant comments, experiences with this. brands?
post #2 of 7
Some Diesel, some PDC, some Seven, some Levis are the first that come to mind. All of those brands have at least some jeans that I've seen with fake selvage, however they might not be trying so hard to fake selvage as to fool people (because it's pretty easy to tell the difference), rather they do it for a slightly more durable leg, and color-ripling on both sides of the outseam, instead of on just one.
post #3 of 7
Yeah, what I've seen doesn't look anything like real selvage, so I'd agree it's probably just an accent/durability thing. Although I saw something that might be confused for selvage if viewed from far away. The edges had a piece of white fabric wrapped around it instead of stitching to keep the ends from unraveling. If you couldn't see the dimension of the fabric, you might think it was selvage.
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BTW, all real selvedge jeans will be tapered, straightleg or a slight bootcut, since the outseam is necessarily straight, down from the waist, (with the "boot cut" constrained to the inseam, there is only so much you can do.)
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BTW, all real selvedge jeans will be tapered, straightleg or a slight bootcut, since the outseam is necessarily straight, down from the waist, (with the "boot cut" constrained to the inseam, there is only so much you can do.)
Sweet. I was just gonna ask about that, actually.
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Although I saw something that might be confused for selvage if viewed from far away. The edges had a piece of white fabric wrapped around it instead of stitching to keep the ends from unraveling. If you couldn't see the dimension of the fabric, you might think it was selvage.
Since pretty much all selvedge jeans consider their selvedgeness a major selling point, I doubt they would ever cover it "Hong Kong style" (to use a classic clothing reference). I could be wrong of course.
post #7 of 7
that cloth on the edge is called piping in the usa. some call it hong kong finish, trying to give it some sort of class.
all that is done is to run it through an automatic sewing machine.
it would seem that instead of adding 4 more operations it would be better to use real selvage.
or could it be dressing up cheaper denim, they are really saving $$?
i have never done production engineering so i am not an expert on this.
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