SF - Problem with muscle definition

**Flame** · July 6th, 2007, 04:38 PM

Lately I have noticed a lack of definition in my body, for lack of a better word. Just under 6 feet, 165 lbs and I'm pretty strong and fit.

However, my chest, thighs and shoulders are a nice size and I can lift a good load, but they seem to lack definition, and they look toned only after a good workout.

Do I have to drop some weight to acheive the "defined" look ?

**mbc** · July 6th, 2007, 04:41 PM

How toned you are is more or less inversely proportional to how much body fat you have. So, in short, lose fat.

**ibleedwhite** · July 8th, 2007, 01:58 PM

yeah first check your body fat %, and then drop some.
important to remember that your genes come into effect as well.

**ken** · July 9th, 2007, 08:49 AM

My guess is that there's very little fat on your shoulders (who's got fat shoulders at 6' 165lbs.?). Are you on a creatine supplement? If not, start. Along with increasing performance in the gym, it'll keep you "pumped" for longer afterwards, sometimes even carrying into the next day. Also, fix any problems with your post-workout meal.

**gvibes** · July 9th, 2007, 10:48 AM

Either you need to add more muscle mass, or lose more fat. It's not rocket surgery.

**Willsw** · July 9th, 2007, 03:31 PM

Synthol.

**lawyerdad** · July 9th, 2007, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flame

Lately I have noticed a lack of definition in my body, for lack of a better word. Just under 6 feet, 165 lbs and I'm pretty strong and fit.

However, my chest, thighs and shoulders are a nice size and I can lift a good load, but they seem to lack definition, and they look toned only after a good workout.

Do I have to drop some weight to acheive the "defined" look ?

At six feet and 165 pounds, I can't imagine you need to drop weight. More likely you need to increase muscle mass at the expense of fat, which on the margin will meaning gaining weight (muscle weighing more than fat).

**Jared** · July 9th, 2007, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawyerdad

At six feet and 165 pounds, I can't imagine you need to drop weight. More likely you need to increase muscle mass at the expense of fat, which on the margin will meaning gaining weight (muscle weighing more than fat).

+1 You can't be that strong at 165 lbs.

**mensimageconsultant** · July 10th, 2007, 01:59 PM

Muscle mass is not a particularly reliable indicator of strength.

Maybe a diet with less sodium would produce more muscle definition, by reducing water weight.

**lifersfc** · July 10th, 2007, 07:55 PM

You probably don't have enough muscle mass to show much definition. I remember when I was 165 lbs. I could seem my see my abs, but my arms and chest didn't show much muscle. You will probably have to get really, really lean (like 6-8% bodyfat) to start to look defined at your weight.

Strength and muscle mass are correlated, but not directly related. I put many 225 pounders to shame as far as strength, but they obviously have much bigger muscles.

**Connemara** · July 10th, 2007, 08:05 PM

I have no muscle.

**greg_atlanta** · July 10th, 2007, 09:07 PM

Don't fight a losing battle. Sounds like you're naturally skinny. You'd have to work A LOT harder to gain definition than other guys with a different body type.

**drainpipe** · July 11th, 2007, 12:57 PM

If you haven't lifted much, start with a simple program like Bill Starr's Linear 5x5 and do some running. I'm skinny as all fuck at 5'10" 130lbs, but I found that doing large lifts like squats and deadlifts along with shedding body fat with running and a sensible diet drastically improved my definition.

edit: eat more protein, too

**bBoy JEe** · July 11th, 2007, 01:13 PM

I believe the answer is anabolic steroids... and a lot of them. Every serious bodybuilder I know uses them.

**ibleedwhite** · July 11th, 2007, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jared

+1 You can't be that strong at 165 lbs.

don't judge a cover by its book.

July 6th, 2007, 04:38 PM	#1
Flame Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 976	Problem with muscle definition Lately I have noticed a lack of definition in my body, for lack of a better word. Just under 6 feet, 165 lbs and I'm pretty strong and fit. However, my chest, thighs and shoulders are a nice size and I can lift a good load, but they seem to lack definition, and they look toned only after a good workout. Do I have to drop some weight to acheive the "defined" look ?
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July 6th, 2007, 04:41 PM	#2
mbc Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 586	Re: Problem with muscle definition How toned you are is more or less inversely proportional to how much body fat you have. So, in short, lose fat.
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July 8th, 2007, 01:58 PM	#3
ibleedwhite Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 638	Re: Problem with muscle definition yeah first check your body fat %, and then drop some. important to remember that your genes come into effect as well.

July 9th, 2007, 08:49 AM	#4
ken Banned by Request Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,787	Re: Problem with muscle definition My guess is that there's very little fat on your shoulders (who's got fat shoulders at 6' 165lbs.?). Are you on a creatine supplement? If not, start. Along with increasing performance in the gym, it'll keep you "pumped" for longer afterwards, sometimes even carrying into the next day. Also, fix any problems with your post-workout meal.
	... Last edited by ken : July 9th, 2007 at 08:53 AM.

July 9th, 2007, 10:48 AM	#5
gvibes Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 256	Re: Problem with muscle definition Either you need to add more muscle mass, or lose more fat. It's not rocket surgery.

July 9th, 2007, 03:31 PM	#6
Willsw Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: DC Posts: 1,221	Re: Problem with muscle definition Synthol.
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July 10th, 2007, 01:59 PM	#9
mensimageconsultant Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,286	Re: Problem with muscle definition Muscle mass is not a particularly reliable indicator of strength. Maybe a diet with less sodium would produce more muscle definition, by reducing water weight.
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July 10th, 2007, 07:55 PM	#10
lifersfc Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 353	Re: Problem with muscle definition You probably don't have enough muscle mass to show much definition. I remember when I was 165 lbs. I could seem my see my abs, but my arms and chest didn't show much muscle. You will probably have to get really, really lean (like 6-8% bodyfat) to start to look defined at your weight. Strength and muscle mass are correlated, but not directly related. I put many 225 pounders to shame as far as strength, but they obviously have much bigger muscles.

July 10th, 2007, 08:05 PM	#11
Connemara Proud Mary Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Un uomo piu virile Posts: 28,286	Re: Problem with muscle definition I have no muscle.
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July 10th, 2007, 09:07 PM	#12
greg_atlanta Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 747	Re: Problem with muscle definition Don't fight a losing battle. Sounds like you're naturally skinny. You'd have to work A LOT harder to gain definition than other guys with a different body type.

July 11th, 2007, 12:57 PM	#13
drainpipe Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 96	Re: Problem with muscle definition If you haven't lifted much, start with a simple program like Bill Starr's Linear 5x5 and do some running. I'm skinny as all fuck at 5'10" 130lbs, but I found that doing large lifts like squats and deadlifts along with shedding body fat with running and a sensible diet drastically improved my definition. edit: eat more protein, too
drainpipe Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 96	Last edited by drainpipe : July 11th, 2007 at 01:02 PM.

July 11th, 2007, 01:13 PM	#14
bBoy JEe Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 149	Re: Problem with muscle definition I believe the answer is anabolic steroids... and a lot of them. Every serious bodybuilder I know uses them.

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