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  1. hokuto

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    I have to shake my head at this whole spreadsheet thing. Let's assume that Drew honestly intends to fill orders and has the financial means too, Drew's obviously shown he can't run the logistics of the operation and as far as I know has made no contact to people organizing lawsuits and...
  2. hokuto

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    Personally I think @dieworkwear is too soft on Drew, but if Drew wanted to seriously salvage the situation he would have contacted him days ago because he's really one of the few people to actually try to organize everyone else. As for the outrage dying, there's little more for most people to...
  3. hokuto

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    Him confirming the money is beneficial to everyone, in the sense that it illustrates whether any plan is even possible, and for the legal route it proves there is something to go after
  4. hokuto

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    Before anyone buys into any plan, prove to Fok you have the money to make this happen
  5. hokuto

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    So it's pretty clear at this point that Drew is hiding out, skipping town or doing both. What will eventually happen is that reporter will probably write his article and ever so slowly the legal wheels of motion will eventually roll even if it's just paypal, credit card companies having a file...
  6. hokuto

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    What could he possibly say that makes any of this excusable? The majority of the orders will be out by the end of the month? Tried that earlier this year. I lost all the money? Well you should go to jail A picture of EMS boxes? Korean Holidays? Seriously, what would you want to hear from...
  7. hokuto

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    You told people to lay off, which is what I said. You're one of the people that Drew chose to talk to if Drew was my friend the conversation would go something like this. Hey Drew, there's an angry mob at styleforum out for your blood, what's the deal with the money and the jackets? You...
  8. hokuto

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    Are you mad? Drew is entirely responsibly for how ****** things are. Instead of telling other people to lay off, how about you give some advice to Drew to 1) Apologize 2) Tell the truth 3) Have a plan to make amends. Is being nice to Drew going to get people their jackets? If you want to wait...
  9. hokuto

    Leather Jackets: Post Pictures of the Best You've Seen/Owned?

    Anyone able to give me a suggestion for a modern mtm double rider maker with oxblood as a colour option please? Aero's style isn't what I want for this jacket and Vanson doesn't offer one from what I've seen of their leather choices. Thank you
  10. hokuto

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    Adding my money to the first 50, if any other first 50 people see this, please do the same 1 dvskei $905.00 2 chenm0416 $750.00 3 Feji $280.00 4 MickeyPunch $780.00 5 StPauli 6 reallypeacedoff $1,940.00 7 wklq76a $380.00 8 FireGX $780.00 9 RetroFuture $803.50 10 Spaghettimatt $1,700.00 11...
  11. hokuto

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    Name got put wrong, please copy and paste from this one for the next person 1 dvskei 2 chenm0416 3 Feji 4 MickeyPunch 5 StPauli 6 reallypeacedoff 7 wklq76a 8 FireGX 9 RetroFuture 10 Spaghettimatt 11 Nolvadex 12 flipster 13 TheObserver 14 bakasam 15 Death24xASecond 16 Demure 17 veekta 18...
  12. hokuto

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    1 more order to the pile 1 dvskei 2 chenm0416 3 Feji 4 MickeyPunch 5 StPauli 6 reallypeacedoff 7 wklq76a 8 FireGX 9 RetroFuture 10 Spaghettimatt 11 Nolvadex 12 flipster 13 TheObserver 14 bakasam 15 Death24xASecond 16 Demure 17 veekta 18 SuperFamicom 19 pyroxyze 20 ninopwns 21 Danay 22 jim_n 23...
  13. hokuto

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    Drew, you've basically made people angry enough that they would rather ruin you than get their jackets. This is how I see the this ending based on what's happen so far. More or more people are going to try to initiate charge backs, the vast majority probably won't have any luck and that will...
  14. hokuto

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    Hey guys, I have a crazy idea. if you answer messages people will stop sending them!
  15. hokuto

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    So if I recalled correctly, you asked Drew to intervene in your case and after you got your response you told everyone else to shut up and not overwhelm him. You realize the majority of people have had no communication from Drew or any answers regarding wide spread issues such as refunds and...
  16. hokuto

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    Putting it generously, if you believe everything Drew says and assume he's been working hard on a way to give refunds. It's still incredibly bad customer service to not have told the people who asked for refunds, all of this months ago.
  17. hokuto

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    Anecdotally I've heard that Paypal will pull funds some the back account it's linked to and clearly out the paypal account is by no means a clean getaway, granted he may literally have no money but the bank doesn't like requests like that and won't let Drew off with a slap on the wrist. If the...
  18. hokuto

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    The last comment on libertine only lasted 40 minutes before being deleted. For those that didn't have a change to read it, a guy with a July 31st spot was saying that he got the wrong jacket and had no way of contacting Drew and wanted to get in touch with him.
  19. hokuto

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    Hi Ben, I'm really impressed by the Bella Spalla Sportcoat but I'm rather hesitant to buy it in black vs navy or charcoal, I've backtrack a few pages and understand their are some production issues but are we talking about weeks or months to see it in a different colour in a 36s? Thank you
  20. hokuto

    TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

    The heart of the issue isn't the speed, if Drew were to announce that everyone would get their jackets within 2 years of ordering, there'd be some temporary whining but the people who want to wait will wait. What's the problem is Drew dangles the image that things are running like normal when...

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