idk about that, but srsly, baking pies well is not easy. Depends on the fruit, moisture content, making a really good crust and keeping it crisp on the bottom. Totally random, but interesting fact... a friend of mine is good friends with Kenny G and apparently he makes pies that literally will blow your fucking mind. It's like a thing with his bros to try to get him to bring you a pie because they're so good. Weird huh?