China "got out of poverty" by getting about 1 billion of 1.3 billion people used to near-slavery factory jobs. Neither India nor China are in enviable social positions, regardless of some people getting rich by outsourcing to them.
I forgot his name, but the guy who was saying Islam doesn't need an enlightenment or reformation sounded deliberately obtuse. "Islam has never impeded science", etc. He knows this isn't the 1800's, right?The former mujahahadeen was a very interesting person to hear from.