maybe a suede version? see sigi had a pair of 8.5d indies a few years ago that might have been the most uncomfortable aldens i've ever owned so i sold them. fast forward to present day when i have some snuff suede boots on trubalance size 8.5d which might be my most comfortable aldens. could it have been the foot balance heel on the indies? hoping for similar luck as i consider foolishly ordering some unlined chukkas after striking out previously.