thanks Mike. they turned out great i think. the shell and eyelets are great but I really enjoy their craftsmanship of the outsole and welt. outstanding work really. and big thumbs up to the guys for making the call. initially we were thinking commando and storm welt, but settled with this design of 360 flat welt on dainite.best part, they finished 3-4 weeks sooner than expected! im poor, just in time for the holidays!