oh dear. im too old for that thread. younger kid are running that showaepsome i dont know man, epsom is pretty cool onti it self. i think if my shannons fit id probably foregone this purchasethanks lol yeah and they fill out the shoe very well too. shame they are no longer offered for rtwthank you, sirha, id love to see the other pair. so many us11's here was hoping someone here got them. could have been twinsies!