a little less pliable, but still just as nice. it's also just as heavy, but it seems like it will break-in slower than my calf TOJs. that's not a bad thing at all, it might even be better it terms of longevity. it has an awesome grain texture that i don't remember any of my previous TOJs having. i couldn't be happier to be honest with you. the quality of the threading seems a little bit worse than TOJ, but the fit is better than any other jacket i've ordered.