btw, I just got the selvedge jeans in size 29. Not concerned about waist, as people have said they stretch. However, they are practically skin tight on the thighs on my 5'10 140lb frame. Granted, I'm an athletic skinny 140lb, so my thighs are more muscular than most since I squat every so often. Just a heads up for anyone interested in the jeans. I'll be sizing up to a 30, if anyone knows where I can get the new stonewash (light one) at a discount that would be great.