What's your budget?First I would say APC new standard and then just wash them.cheap end - levis 501 or gap straight. Both are nearly identical in measurements, with the gap straight having a lower rise. Closer to the APCs.
10 or 12 bucks to ship them back, likely less than your time is worth. I had to iterate through two sizes before I got one that worked, but if I had actually measured a pair of pants that fit then I would have been able to skip the returns. Jamison's measurements are usually spot on. Understand if you want to try them on, but his stuff seems to be pretty great quality for the price point.edit:spelling is hard
What's the current thought on "critique my fit" threads? Getting ready to jump into MTM shirts and want some feedback on what I need to request based on a current OTR shirt. Likely going mytailor and no chance of an "in-person" measurement. Fit thread seems a bit much, but maybe that's the best place.