Needs weird pants IMO. The cleanness of the INcotex really highlight the similarities between Guidis and like, shitty business casual shoes (i.e. inelegant lasts, roughed up leather). Solovairs turn up pretty regularly on Yoox. That's where I got mine. This pic is from when they were new, I can't say they've broken in super well--still a little uncomfortable/stiff and the leather is creasy. Compared to docs, quite nice; compared to, like, Trickers? Trickers all the way.