I got these from pediwear. Nice boot, well-constructed, love the Dainite sole. Sadly, the leather is a step down from crap. Their "antiquing" adds up to deep creasing that already looks like it is going to crack any day now. And don't expect much in terms of patina, unless you like the dull waxy look. Overall, I like them for what they are--total beaters that I don't mind scraping, mucking around, and using as general shit-kickers.