It's hard to take a pic of the measurements. When the garment is flat, 17 and 7 is what I measured. When I laid my Cast in Coast in the same size over it, it wasn't even close. I could wear these over the Coast
Just got my cast in Mica and the size is completely off. The size 29 I got measures closer to a 30. Not sure if it's worth doing a hot wash to shrink it since JE doesn't have any more 29 in stock. I've ordered from JE 9 times and this is the first time I've gotten missized product.
Darn, my latest JE order is delayed by UPS. "A late UPS trailer arrival has caused a delay. We're adjusting plans to deliver your package as quickly as possible. / Delivery will be rescheduled." It was supposed to come in today, but I guess I'll have to wait.
The jeans do stretch, but the best thing to do is to measure a pair of jeans you like the fit of and compare the measurements on JE's site. I've found that JE jeans stretch an inch laying flat or two inches around.