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Quote: Originally Posted by Slewfoot I like everything except the pink. Just a color I'm not too into, but that's only personal preference. The big picture seems correct in my mind. Agreed. Pink tie = not CBD. It's likewise well outside of the range of classic men's style, a somewhat less restrictive category than CBD.
Think of it this way; you want to dress in a manner that is harmoneous with your environment. That's why you wear lighter colors in the summer and darker colors in the winter, etc. So what is the environment like in a casino at night? This is easy - it calls for black or midnight blue. You want to go dark.
I will be frozen in complex gases. Hence, I want to wear something classic and conservative so that, when I'm thawed-out, I will be good to go. Pic & Pic navy suit, white pinpoint shirt (medium spread point), black grenadine tie, and white linen pocket square. I will emerge as a cross between James Bond and Cary Grant and I shall rule the sartorial world.
Quote: Originally Posted by Viktri Two things: 1) Construction (workmanship) isn't the same as fit. Aesthetics includes fit. 2) Depending upon the individual's measurements and skill of the measurer, MTM can appear to fit as well as fully custom garments. I agree with this.
Quote: Originally Posted by Slewfoot Moo - While a fun outfit, I think a few subtle things take away from it being an uber CBD outift. 1) The texture of the tie as something a bit more flat would have worked better. 2) The lavender overcheck in the suit as it's tough for me to associate any shade of pink or purple with CBD. 3) The fold of the square has a bit too much flair and the colors stand out a bit. I first wrote something...
Quote: Originally Posted by Mr. Moo What does the thread think? Very, very nice! But CBD? Lots of unconservative things here if by that we mean "things one hardly ever sees in the office." Genadine ties are hardly ever seen. Pocket squares are hardly ever seen. Spread collars are perhaps not quite as endangered but still not common. The rig's not inappropriate or foppish - don't get me wrong - but it's probably not conservative. ...
Quote: Originally Posted by Slewfoot To me, it just sounds like they're just two different philosophies. I imagine that Manton, like anyone, can do both in a given week, but he wouldn't when he goes to the office which is essentially what this thread is about. Quote: Originally Posted by poorsod I got the impression that CBD depends on context - type of business, principal vs peon, young vs. old. Well, none of us...
By the way, it just now occurred to me that Manton's book in part makes the case for dressing as "dandily" as one reasonably can get away with in a given environment. If so, what gives with tonight's argument for CBD (however defined)? Manton, have you had a change of heart since you published your book, a change of style, or did I misunderstand you low those years ago when I first picked up The Suit?
Quote: Originally Posted by mafoofan I really despise colored and patterned linen squares, leaving only solid white, which I don't want to wear all the time. But you'll wear solid light blue shirts all the time. You're an idiosyncratic one, aren't you!
Quote: Originally Posted by Viktri I don't know if what you said is true but I think it is irrelevant. I wouldn't prioritize construction over aesthetics. I would. Fit is first. Everything else follows. If it doesn't fit well, no cool-eo aesthetics will save the piece. But if it fits, even the plainest thing will look smashing. See Cary Grant.
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