It's the tie space. As in too much, and the leading edges of the collar r too stiff and don't wrap around the tie as they should ime. Also for me even their 'slim' fit in RTW still billows like a sail under the arms and at the belly. That's Harrison's Moonbeam. Nice cloth. like a soft tweed, and sweet patterns. hey @Coxsackie when r u going to post your Bn tailor? or have u?