Zip,Very nice boots! This is what shell Indys should look like: regular stitching on the front. The raised stitching looks weird to my eye. My two pairs, #8 and cigar on commando, are the old style. Won't buy any of the current shell versions. But did order some Ultimate Indys from Leather Soul: brown chromexcel on commando.I think raised stitching looks great on full-strap loafers and tassel loafers, however.