They both run about a size big, but arms are super slim so tentatively TTS. The cord is the go-to hendee model this season imo. It drapes really nicely and is pretty ridiculous in person. The herringbone is more versatile, but imo the townsend releasing this spring is way better in the same fabric.Their raws always fit larger than the other denim. I'm not sure if theyre unsanforized, but I havent heard any reports of them shrinking like crazy.