i did and the most relevant thing i found was get smart's response on the leather patch but that not going through because of the leather's softness.
going through 850+ posts is hard. easier for someone else who already knows to answer and that someone doesnt even have to be from farinellis. it's not like im making a new topic.
i just came across this on the blackbird site. it's just under $200 at $198.
a friend of mine who has seen it in person says that on a 32, the hem's around 8". thigh is 12, and the inseam 34. selvedge outseam and coin pocket.