Not sure when Armoury started carrying Carmina, but I'm confident Carmina were well known to SFers long before that. I bought my first pair in Spain pre-'10.
Just so everyone is clear, see below for my order from the Sept '12 for pricing on shell.
432,00 € x 1 = 432,00 €
Lace-up wing tip oxford in Burgundy Shell cordovan Semi squared last. Leather sole. Calf lining.
TOTAL PRICE OF ORDER
Payment method: Credit card
Order Price (Taxes included): 432,00...