using the same factories isn't revolutionary. i'm fairly certain is and ma+ use the same factories as carpe. the last just looks more like the wjk version than the carpes. maybe i'm just going crazy.that being said... i wouldn't mind a pair of those vachetta derbies also i genuinely doubt this will be the case. or else stores wouldn't have picked up guidi back in the day. businesses are in the business of making money.