Thanks deadbn for the kind words and agree with you, i dont always get it right as the so called rules state but at least i do try. Unlike most people i know my mistakes but do try to fix. I will fix my tux when i get time , i would have done it before event but trousers only arrived 5 days before event . My local taylor quoted 100 pounds to alter trouser and jacket and said it would take 3 weeks. I couldnt do it as i didnt have time or money , but i will do it soon.