Originally Posted by Kaplan
Have you seen your avatar?
Ooops - caught in flagrante.
But that collar doesn't have the slots for stays though. And should be seen as a cautionary tale, and an exception that proves the rule (Am I out of the hole or have I dug myself in deeper?)
Seriously though, when I said "limp collar", I was thinking of something more flaccid than that. Specifically, collars which are supposed to have stays in...