My dude. My duuude.OCBDs are great. Pair of chinos, sleeves rolled up. Pair of flannels, sleeves still rolled up (cuz I'm always warm, nahmean). APC New Standards with a Beadale or non-martial M65 on the weekend (cuz I am a dad now).Or with a tie like so:I just don't want to see that awkward open roll under a tailored jacket.