Pulled the trigger on the red wing knock-offs during their christmas 1 day sale. With free shipping, free return shipping, and 20% off, I figure it couldn't hurt to take a look and maybe get a decent pair of beaters. I'm actually kind of surprised at how well constructed these are. They feel quite solid. They aren't redwing quality but for the $65 I payed for them, I think I'm gonna keep them.