Originally Posted by Get Smart
trouser rise isnt that low, just lower than normal
I don't like it when the waistband hits my belly button on normal trews
From the measurements on the website, too low for me. And I wouldn't want to bother you with requesting it be something like 31" from front of waistband to back.
Originally Posted by ts4them
UGH, don't tell me they're trying to bring pleats back! Also, if you're going to wear shorts, you need to have tan legs, sorry.
Sorry to disappoint you, but pleats will always be around.
What on earth are "jorts"?