It's not them, it's me. I tend to wear dark black jeans or pants a lot. The darkness of these wouldn't be enough of a contrast to pull off with black. I own a natty CXL as well, and those work well with jeans, though I'm thinking I prefer a slimmer silhouette these days so might unload those too and just opt for a nice derby. Definitely keeping my 3Sixteen Stealths as my beater boot, though.