I think the latter. I have the Jefferson in shell and the strand in calf. The Jefferson in shell is very tight so I think the Indy lining and insole has an effect. Shell doesn't give a lot so the shape stays roughly the same.
I think the GMTO will not be successful as say Carmina but I think it has it's place. I think eventually the Dundee will hit 12 because it's a great make up. The problem I think was most peoplewho would've joined the Dundee GMTO are already capped it this month and are waiting for the EC, Bayfield and strand GMTOs.Keep the list alive and I think soon enough there will be 12.
What's the final deets on those shaker heights? Am envious.Was torn whether to do a single MTO or buy multiple seconds. I ended up buying 1 first MacGregors, 1 seconds Long Branch, 1 seconds BB black park ave, 1 BB walnut presidio.