Yeah that's Basically what they are. A waterproof ugg. I love my magistas and these are essentially magistas with faux fur lining. Apparently it's a micro ripstop upper but it looks and feels like a thin leather, and the lacing is pretty rad too. I just ordered the other cw for my wife.
Yeah OK I get it, but there has to be some limit, a lot of people are getting mad that discounts are getting taken away, then they still post those discounts in this thread. You can't have it both ways.
Quality seems good to me. Nothing amazing. Leather heel on par with most nike, flyknit itself seems softer and "cushier" for lack of a better word than any other flyknit I've had (I don't have any of the FK 3's though so maybe this is normal now.)