Exactly, #4 is out for choice of cordovan, so shoe people need to regroup.Updates for the special order shoe vote.So far we have 13 votes, 6 for SWB and 4 for LWB with a few scattered PTBs. The overwhelming choice for color is cigar. Leydon last is the sure winner. Tight race between Waterloc and commando soles. I assume the edging will be antique, not sure about the welt but I don't have a preference. Let's keep the votes coming.