Thanks for the links Pliny, I'll check them out. Well, I agree with Greg that light weight birdseye may not be ideal, but OTOH it's hot here and I like the looks of it, hmmm... I used to have a rather light weight charcoal birdseye suit that was disappointingly delicate and didn't last long, though. Maybe it's the weave? Never had sharkskin before, I assume it is a bit harder wearing, is that a correct assumption?