I can also only speak for the new copper chino. For me it is more a Spring/Summer fabric, probably also for warmer Fall days. Here in Austria where the temperatures go from 35°C in Summer (only a few days) to -20°C in Winter. I would have loved a fabric in the same color which is a bit havier and also wrinkles less, similar to the Navy Twill chino. Nevertheless it's a good fabric but for my understanding more for casual use.