Sorry for the slow response. I wear the same size in both,12E. Now the snugness is far less noticeable then when they were new. Even if the RL's feel a little tight on first putting them on for the day, after 15 minutes it's completely unnoticeable, maybe due to the leather warming and softening. If I didn't have a couple of MTO shell Amoks on order, I'd get more of these as even a hair snug still fits my foot better than the Dundees I tried.