They are #8. I took the pic in the brightest room in the house but it was already dark. It's been overcast and snowy all day today. At one point today while breaking them indoors I could really see the $8 tone. I'll be sure to post a natural light pic on maiden voyage next week. They fit perfect BTW! But immediately, the creases are lighter. Like the act of creasing somehow is squeezing the dye out of the leather? Weird.