Picked up a pair of Archdale wingtips at the factory shop a couple of weeks ago for £155, which I thought was a steal. Minor scuff at the front, which would probably have happened within 2 days of my wearing anyway. The 'normal' Barker 2nds were on sale for £80 (first pair), down to £55 (3rd pair). Barker Black certainly sleaker and better made (imo), and I like the quirkyness of the brand (esp. the Archdale), though some were way to far out there for me...   Also...