I agree. I've only bought 2 pair of unsanforized denim; NF x kamikaze attack and levis shrink to fit. The first being the levis which I soaked twice and they where still huge. So I just don't even deal with that shit. Just to iffy. With a 50$ pair who cares, but if I spend 200+ on jawnz and the don't fit we'll after shrink thats just to big of a waist. Didn't attempt to soak or shrink the NF x kamikaze attack. Just bought ma size and rocked out.