Gross even by my standards - next you'll be looking at stingray Tony Lamas. Gotta say, I'm losing interest in my RMWs. The only thing that keeps me from buying some Loake cap-toes is our dollar. In terms of bespoke and M2M, doesn't it really depend on the brand? a bespoke suit might be more intricate than M2M, but a lot of M2M brands like P Johnson and OH make the style of suit that igents dig / will get you snapped at Pitti.