And that's a problem? If you want to look like everyone else, and they're all slobs, go ahead. I'd rather stand out. Me, I don't believe in going over the top - a full suit and tie when everyone else is in hoodies is not good. But a patterned dress shirt or OCBD or button-front sport shirt, casual blazer and chinos (or dark jeans) plus, say, loafers is not over-the-top.