Thanks, or screw you. You are right, this jacket needs a solid tie. I wish I had one in the color of the tie I used. Would have been perfect. D'oh! There are too may people there I want to avoid for me to risk it. I know you were referring to Murl, but when I lived in Dubai the locals would constantly mistake me for Australian. I don't think I sound anything like an Australian but apparently it's close enough to get mistaken for one.