Lombard's are in the 2 last, I believe-- I had the same issue with Players, also in the 2 last. I ordered them in 12D, and since I got them at Nordstrom's (who have a very liberal return policy) I tried them for about 6 weeks, but they never stretched in the toe box. They kept pinching my little toe. I even had the guys at Nordstroms try stretching them. Nope. I had to return them. Don't bank on them stretching.