They drop ~1in while wearing, what I think I'm going to have to do on the next pair is increase the front and back rises, which should both give me some more break and stop the the 'butt sucking' also? As I would like to keep where they are sitting at the moment, but agree with the comments.
Fit pictures from the other day for another forum, figured you guys might appreciate them too.
TM Lewin white poplin
Luxire light summer navy chino
Alden #8 chukka
Quite happy with the Luxire pants, might need to shrink the waist measurement though on the next pair. Unhappy with the shelf butt though, any ideas for solutions?