Appreciate the reply. This photo should illustrate what I mean: 3.75" collar points, 1.75" collar height and 1.5" neckband. 2" neckband? That sounds rather tall! I think I'll get the same -- English spread, 3.5" collar points, no tie space. Definitely shorter neckband and collar height though, my previous order's collar is way too tall for my liking.