Nope, not solid at all. They're extremely soft leather with no structure whatsoever. I fell off at Roebling where I ripped off a finger and broke a couple of bones in my foot. Afterwards, I had a pair of custom Held gloves made (it's funny how an empty finger looks like the reservoir tip....) and got some Sidi boots. Vanson had to completely rebuild the left side of my leathers. For what it's worth, I believe you can order them without the logo.
3/26/13 at 6:30pm