I bought 3 of the Gatsby shirts after the suggestions above - thanks, guys. They arrived yesterday. They really are great shirts, but seem to be a little big for their measured size. I usually wear a 17 35 and with that size in this shirt, I can fit 4 fingers in the neck. Going to try to exchange today. I also bought 3 of the golden fleece v-neck sweaters, and they are also great. That really was a great sale.