I have PS size 30, and ST-220x, double black in size 32. Both are nice jeans, but 3Sixteens are better made and better fabric, probably better cut too (higher rise). The APCs are a blueish grey, and fade fairly well (tons of examples in APC thread). My double blacks are great though, fading to an ashy grey with vertical falling. blew out the crotch already though.