Yes, I do find a sub for my shirtmaking, but it has it shortcoming. The major one is time, now it take one to two months to get my shirt made, compare to AC it just take a week, or even three days.But the good thing is, it is more than 50% less compare to ordered the same shirting at AC. For the high end shirting like Alumo it is just about 1/3 price.Quality and craftmanship? I would said about 95% of AC. The only thing I miss of AC is the hand monogram.