Exactly, those four cover a wide spectrum of designs. What else do you want, a full compendium of Japanese male clothing?cyc wid it, I think I see it now. "streetwear" is to street + wear like "football" is [[SPOILER]] I will "trust" you if you post or link to some of those wonders you mention. Just don't take as a given my knowledge of your lingo.Note: this will be my last post about it in this thread. My apologies to EFV for creating noise.